Comments on: Choosing An XMPP Server

By: matteblack

matteblack — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:41:49 +0000

Metajack
Thanks for this clarity.

I am not a programmer, but trying to find candidates for my devs to examine.

I just looked at Palaver and Speeqe. Is Palaver built on top of ejabbedD, and Speeqe on top of that?

Confused. Can’t find much about it, and the wiki is a bit confusing as to what’s what.
Can you clarify this?

By: Peter Saint-Andre

Peter Saint-Andre — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:57:35 +0000

Hey Jack, I’m always happy to create another @xmpp.org list — shall this one be xmpp-on-the-web@xmpp.org or something catchier like hybrids@xmpp.org? I agree that we have a lot of work to do in the area of integrating HTTP and XMPP technologies…

By: metajack

metajack — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:52:57 +0000

@Mickaël: I just wrote up the details of the migration here: http://metajack.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/migrating-to-ejabberd-the-gory-details/

I’m quite interested in your feedback.

By: Migrating To Ejabberd: The Gory Details « metajack

Migrating To Ejabberd: The Gory Details « metajack — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:51:17 +0000

[...] To Ejabberd: The Gory Details 27Aug08 Yesterday I blogged about choosing an XMPP server. Once you’ve made this decision, it is time to get it set up and running great. If this [...]

By: Mickaël Rémond

Mickaël Rémond — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:23:36 +0000

Hello Jack,

Glad you made the switch.
Just for the record, how did you proceed to the migration ?
Did you find it easy enough ?

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Mickaël Rémond

By: metajack

metajack — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:33:24 +0000

@Peter: I’m quite surprised that Idavoll didn’t support the latest XEP version since Ralph is one of the co-authors. Did you report this to Ralph? If you haven’t been able to get ahold of him, please E-mail me the relevant information and I will see that he gets it.

I’m quite surprised to hear another chess site is using XMPP! Can you give me more information?

I mentioned djabberd in the post, but I thought it had been abandoned. The only thing I remember about it was that Chesspark’s clients did not work with it for some reason, but it has been years since we tested this.

@Keith: You’re very welcome. It sounds like you’ve made the reasonable choice considering the other technology investments you have. Do you have 50k+ simultaneous connections, or just that many accounts? Let me know how the testing goes; I’m always interested in XMPP server performance reports.

By: metajack

metajack — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:26:52 +0000

@Favio: We use Debian stable running on Amazon EC2 instances for everything but DNS and E-Mail. Those run on more traditionally hosted computers, also on Debian stable.

We use Punjab at Chesspark quite heavily. See Tofu’s write up of our BOSH set up here: http://thetofu.livejournal.com/71339.html

Punjab works excellently with Google Talk, ejabberd, and every other XMPP server we’ve tested. We might be able to gain a little efficiency by using ejabberd’s built in BOSH service, and we’ll be testing this in the next weeks.

As or discussing XMPP on the Web, it’s quite new. Perhaps we can talk Peter Saint-Andre into making an official list for it.

By: Keith

Keith — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:01:09 +0000

Oddly enough, I was looking for the article yesterday!

I ended up choosing Openfire, because we already use Jive Software’s Clearspace Community platform, and Openfire offers some integration with the Clearspace system. The Clearspace system is quite CPU intensive, so I’ll be keeping a close eye on Openfire’s CPU usage. If it gets too high, I’ll likely switch to ejabberd and for go the integration features. Ultimately, performance is our key concern with a growing userbase of 50k+.

Thanks for the great blogs and libstophe.js.

By: Peter Petrov

Peter Petrov — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:22:49 +0000

Btw, you should probably add DJabberd to the list of servers. After all it powers LiveJournal, which is the second or third largest XMPP service in the world.

By: Peter Petrov

Peter Petrov — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:04:31 +0000

@Jack: Yes, we experimented with the latest Idavoll from SVN (v0.8.x). Unfortunately it too didn’t understand properly the latest XEP. So we decided, for now, to implement the older syntax which should work with Ejabberd’s PubSub.

As for the project, it’s a site which broadcasts major chess tournaments and matches (with some extra goodies).